The Death of Death's Sting

From The Death of Death's Sting by Greg Boyd

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April 9, 2015

Brilliant message!

During the sermon Greg of course mentions the work of “Richard Beck” whose “Experimental Theology” website is always buzzing proactively with intriguing topics and discussion. In relation to the subject though, I just wanted to comment here on two other very important “Becks” that are often cited in Richard’s work –

Ernest Becker (1924 – 1974) was a Jewish-American cultural anthropologist and writer & Howards S. Becker – (born April 18, 1928) is an American sociologist who has made major contributions to the sociology of deviance, art and music.

Ernest’s seminal work was his Pulitzer Prize-winning “The Denial of Death” from 1974. An awesome informative read on the subject! He essentially elaborates on the social and psychological implications of various “immorality projects” that people create or become part of, in order to give an ultimate meaning to their lives. The habitual striving for significance in the grand scheme of things often masks ones own mortality, which then gives rise to a whole host of evils involving the self and society in general. Becker came to believe that an individuals character is essentially formed around this process and that this denial is a necessary component of functioning in the world, and that this “character-armor” masks and obscures genuine self-knowledge.

Howard’s work on the other hand, deals basically with the subject of “Deviance” and “Labeling Theory” where objects or people are often labeled “evil”, “deviant” or “heretical” through the process of “social group infraction” wherein those characteristics are subsumed by the isolated party when the “rules” are broken. He states –

“Even though no one else discovers the nonconformity or enforces the rules against it, the individual who has committed the impropriety may himself act as the enforcer. He may brand himself as “deviant” because of what he has done and punish himself in one way or another for his behavior.”

All three men though I would say, are not juridically tied to the Biblical concept of a “personal devil”. The manifestation of “Evil” in its various guises is something either “Causa sui” – something generated from within the self or more nominally, just a “SCR” – a social construction of reality. The idea of an actual spiritual entity or “Satan” reeking havoc on men’s hearts, disrupting and destroying God’s creation and inadvertently orchestrating The Crucifixion, would not necessarily play into the essentialities of their world views. Although Richard is a strong vocal supporter and advocate for the Christus Victor position, he ultimately doesn’t clutch tightly to that foundational aspect of “Spiritual Warfare”.

But truly and effectively moving from a “Scarcity Mindset” to an “Abundance Mindset” as Greg awesomely pointed out, requires the sacrificial love & power of The Cross (especially in community) to beak the yoke of sin and ultimately the fear of death that binds us to “this” world.

April 9, 2015

“immortality projects” & “to break the yoke”
Amongst other embarrassing spelling errors! Lovely iPad2 on the train – Ha!

April 10, 2015

It is noted from Greg’s description of Beck’s ‘Scarcity Mindset’ view that he (Greg) associates this with the Heb 2:15 quotation referring to ‘all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong bondage’. However, from Dave’s writings above, it may appear that Beck’s view is more of a sociological view/construct based on the symptoms (fear of death) rather than dealing with the cause.

In Rom 5:16 and 17 we have,

“…..For the judgement following one trespass brought condemnation…….because of one man’s trespass, death reigned through that one man…….”

The thrust from this and other scriptures is that the fear of death is not necessarily the fear of death, as such, but the fear of judgement following death. In an effort to avoid judgement (but not death), the Universalist would die happy knowing that ultimately he was not going to suffer judgement (depending on which view he took) and similarly the annihilationist would not fear death knowing that eternal punishment would not be eternal. But these latter two constructs reflect more on man’s (favourable) interpretation of scripture to placate in his own mind, judgement and the second death as not being final.

I raise this issue as I don’t recall hearing the word ‘judgement’ in the message. However, it was through the Cross that Jesus bore the judgement of our sins to extinction such that upon receiving the gift of forgiveness we are justified from the penalty, pollution and guilt of our sins. This being the case, Satan has nothing that he can accuse believers of, as the believer sees himself in Christ on the Cross with the penalty for his sins fully satisfied. As quoted in the Extended Summary, 1 John 4:18 says, “There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and he who fears is not perfected in love.”

So a ‘Scarcity Mindset’ or any similar fear abberation should not exist in the mind or life of a believer, but he or she should be totally liberated from the fear of death and of judgement to serve the Father from a loving and grateful heart.

April 13, 2015

Hello Saints,

The spot on 23:00 is where Greg started to really hit my last nerve. I have reached nearly age 70 after some decades of abuse in childhood, 40 years in a cult church, living as robotic as you can imagine, and lots of marital abuse…four “marriages”.

I finally started to understand, in 2008, the cause and effect in my entire life. Now I am aware, and not robotic…I am baffled at what Greg preached.

I am stuck on an island in Washington state…miss WHC so very much!

I am still wanting a real relationship with God glorified.

Sigh

Much love,
Lindy Combs

April 13, 2015

I would very much have appreciated seeing, experiencing the worship music at the end. Couldn’t that have been allowed?

~ Lindy

April 14, 2015

Nice message. Thanks

April 18, 2015

On “legal indebtedness”, i was taught that it was God to whom i owed the debt; not satan. whats up with that?

April 22, 2015

Kev,

Hebrews 9:11-24 lays it all out very clearly! Especially in verses 14 & 15 –

“How much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit [offered Himself without blemish to God,] cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? For this reason He is the mediator of a new covenant, so that, since a death has taken place for the redemption of the transgressions that were committed under the first covenant, those who have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.”

“Heauton prosēnenken amōmon tō Theō” – in the Greek – “Offered himself without Blemish to God”. So unless there was some kind of private secret deal up there that none of knows about, I’d say it means what it says!

Cheers

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In this Easter message we delve into how the Resurrection brings freedom from the accusations of the principalities and powers through the power of self-sacrificial love. We also look at how the Resurrection brings freedom from the fear of death and our mindset of scarcity in order to live a life that is truly sacrificial. The way to get our best life is to stop trying to get our best life now, but to live out of the abundant generosity given to us through the Resurrection.