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Creation

• Greg Boyd

The story of creation has interesting details. But getting lost in those details can make us miss the big picture. In the first week of our new sermon series, The Forest in the Trees, we take a look at creation and how the story of Adam and Eve fits into the big picture. wh-bug

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Topics: Creation, Problem of Evil, Spiritual Warfare

Sermon Series: The Forest in the Trees


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5 thoughts on “Creation

  1. Cameron says:

    Question. Around the 56 minute mark or so in the message Greg said that all people would be redeemed one day at the end of the Bible story. Did he misspeak or does he believe that all people are going to be saved regardless of whether or not they have received God’s free gift of grace through Jesus? This would seem to be inconsistent with the concept of God allowing people to exercise their free will, even if their free will includes rejecting Jesus gift of life.

  2. Andrew Langbehn says:

    Hey Cameron,

    I heard that at the 48:34 mark in the video. I would say that Greg mispoke, as throughout many of his sermons you see the importance of choosing and following Jesus. Also, on the controversial issues part of the this webpage (http://whchurch.org/about/beliefs/controversial-issues), you see this church believing “1. Does God choose who will be saved and who will not?
    We affirm that God loves all whom he has created, that he desires all to be saved, and that Christ died for all people (I Tim 2:4; I Jn 2:2). All who perish do so of their own volition.”

    Blessings!

  3. Dave Pritchard says:

    Cameron,

    I wouldn’t say it was a subconscious or colloquial slip of theology where he was inadvertently throwing in a quick pitch for “Universalism”. The basic gist and thrust of the comment had a post-apocalyptic, post great white throne judgment and or post “bema seat” feel to it, after which the New Heavens and the New Earth are formed and revealed to those who are left, to live in. And yes, and there are 14,564 ways to interpret the sequence of those events – Ha! I would say that he meant it in that context, rather than everybody and anybody automatically gets in at the end.

  4. Greg Boyd says:

    Thanks for the feedback folks. I don’t recall what I said at this point in the sermon, but if I said “all will be redeemed in the end,” then I misspoke. As several people have already pointed out, I believe that God’s offer of an unending relationship with him must be freely accepted, and this entails that there can be no future point at which everyone MUST accept it. I’ll admit that I can’t help but HOPE that all will end up in God’s eternal kingdom. But I
    am more confident that Scripture warns that people (and rebel angels) can become irrevocably hardened to God and that, at this point, God justly, and mercifully, withdraws the gift of existence (viz. they are “annihilated”). If this is so, then all people [who exist when the eternal kingdom is finally established] will enter into this kingdom to live forever in the love of the triune God. Thanks for the opportunity to clear things up. Blessings!

  5. karen says:

    WOW!!! One of the best sermons I’ve ever heard (and I’m no rookie). You delivered a glimpse of the glory of God, and it made my knees buckle. I was listening, while baking an apple pie for my daughter’s birthday, when I was overcome with the need to fall on my knees before God. My hands were covered in pie guts, my knees were bending and I was blinded by tears, and somewhere, between my standing and kneeling, I heard you say, “It makes you want to fall down on your knees…” Your sermon so honored and revealed God that the Holy Spirit knocked me down in my kitchen (I’m a practicing Catholic, we don’t fall on our knees and worship, we kneel on the kneelers at certain increments during mass)! It was beyond incredible. Thank you. I was filled with such courage, such love, and such glorious wonder; Praise be to God! We truly serve a God of Love that no frustration of sin can deny. Thank you. And bless you. I’m a podrishoner in NY. Your sermons are a delightful combination of questions, wisdom, passion, grace and your own quirky charm. God bless you and your family, Pastor Greg.

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