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Let’s Not Make-a-Deal

• Greg Boyd

Salvation is usually defined as a distinct moment in time. It is a deal that we make with God to get out of hell. In this sermon, Greg talks about how salvation is so much more than a one-time deal, and there is something better behind curtain number 2 (guaranteed). wh-bug

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Topics: Covenant, Discipleship, Salvation


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4 thoughts on “Let’s Not Make-a-Deal

  1. Hans says:

    YES! Can we please get that clip uploaded to youtube PLEASE

  2. Tim says:

    Greg I LOVE to hear you preach and I really enjoyed this sermon. I would add one comment however. You mentioned that someone being ” saved in 1974″ is not relevant today but it is only relevant where he/she is today in terms of walking with God. My problem with that is, the Bible says that when we are saved, all things become new. There is an undeniable teaching in the bible that there is a 180 degree turn when someone is saved. So I can’t view that being “saved in 1974” is irrelevant at all. Your thoughts? 🙂

  3. Erik says:

    Tim, you quote one verse but you don’t put it in context and it doesn’t sound like you listened to the whole thing. To repent literally means “to turn” but every time you sin you turn away again from Christ to do so. This is the message of the cross, this is why the people of Israel turned to look upon the serpent in the wilderness of sin to be saved. They saw their sin reflected on the image that was a foreshadowing of the cross. If they got bit again they had to turn back again. Repentance is an every single day thing, the kingdom is continually at hand. If you sin but don’t repent you are as good as unsaved and are no longer new. Claiming you are saved when you have not repented is the sin of the Pharisees. The “newness” mentioned in your reference is the ability we gain when we are mentally gazing upon Christ and not upon our own temptations. It’s all about focus and if you’re no longer focused on Yeshua you’re not saved. This is what Greg was explaining. Be very careful about holding such dogmatic theological interpretations of a single verse, Jesus got onto the Pharisees who did this sort of thing the most. It was called phylactery, they would literally write out scripture, put it in a little box, tie it to their body and claim they were following the instruction of Deuteronomy 11:18. Taking a spiritual concept and applying it literally like this can be a spiritual death trap. You’re not physically new, you don’t get a new genome. You’re new by faith which allows you to walk it, step by step, day by day.

  4. Erik says:

    Just thought I should come back and clarify something. It’s true that God really did tell Israel to literally bind the words to their body, but to think that sign or symbol is anything more than a reminder is incorrect. It is only useful if they work as a reminder and motivate you to repent and turn when you’re in violation. We need the word to convict us, but if we harden our heart and never submit to the conviction of the Spirit they are no good.

    I do not mean to sound Pharisaical myself. I’ve struggled with this a lot and that’s why I can explain it…after being one type of prodical I turn and go too far the other way. I live in rebellion against God by living in sin, then I repent and live in rebellion against God’s forgiveness of other’s sin. Sometimes you just have to keep oscillating back and forth coming closer and closer in line with the straight and narrow. Nobody is perfect but the man after God’s own heart never gives up but always comes back to repentance. Look at David! If he’d looked at his encounter with Goliath as the beginning and end of his salvation he never would have repented when Nathan called him out for his sin with Bathsheba. God doesn’t expect us to have a perfect record, but to have a new perfected heart.

    Always in love,

    -Erik

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